This is worth watching: 19:00 on deals with burial (or not) of crucifixion victims.
Joe Grundy
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The soldiers on guard at Jesus tomb didn't become believers, why in the hell not?
by James Mixon inyou are on guard at jesus sealed tomb.
all of a sudden a great earthquake occurs and an angel.
wearing a dazzling outfit descends from above like lightning and this angel single handedly rolls away.
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What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?
by paul from cleveland ini can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.
i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.
i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.
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Joe Grundy
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We may have interbred with Neanderthals earlier than previously thought.
by cappytan init is now thought that we have been interbreeding with neanderthals as early as 100,000 years ago.. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35595661.
craziest thing i just realized: some women still breed with neanderthals up to this day.
rihanna and chris brown anyone?.
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Joe Grundy
"You're not from Kent are you Joe? That's where she's from "
No, West Wales. Maybe she or her sister were on holiday.
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News Flash: New Reveal Article
by Sugar Shane inless than an hour old:.
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.
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Joe Grundy
"Church elders are not legally responsible to provide physical protection for children of congregants."
I saw this phrase on an earlier post. I don't wish to comment on many of the posts by its author which seem to be US-centered with talk of 'first amendments' and 'suing'. I have no knowledge of those areas.
In the rest of the world, that phrase is, to put it simply, bollocks. Organisations and institutions which assume responsibility for people, especially children, have a duty of care towards them.
That is the whole point of the ARC, and the UK investigation, and the Charity Commission investigation.
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We may have interbred with Neanderthals earlier than previously thought.
by cappytan init is now thought that we have been interbreeding with neanderthals as early as 100,000 years ago.. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35595661.
craziest thing i just realized: some women still breed with neanderthals up to this day.
rihanna and chris brown anyone?.
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Joe Grundy
Mephis:
I was quite taken with the picture of the lady you posted above.
I've woken up with worse looking women than that, IIRC, and she has a certain je ne sais quoi about her.
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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.
by ThomasCovenant inthe sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.
was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.
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Joe Grundy
We'll see how far this can go. Unfortunately I've lost my contacts who I could have used to progress this so must do it through public access channels. -
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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.
by ThomasCovenant inthe sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.
was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.
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Joe Grundy
I've sent the following e-mail to the office of the Information Commissioner:
I would be grateful for your advice.
I understand that congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses maintain considerable amounts of personal data about congregants, including name/address/phone number etc. but also notes as to attendance at congregational meetings, hours spent in 'missionary activity', suitability for advancement, and so on. This data is, I believe, shared with other entities within the overall organisation (WTBTS NY USA).
In particular, I understand that records are kept of congregational enquiries ('judicial committees') into alleged wrongdoings which may include matters as serious as child abuse.
My understanding is that the keeping of such records is subject to the Data Protection Act, and that the Data Controllers should register with ICO and comply with the relevant legislation.
I note that the Jehovah's Witnesses UK HQ is registered (under International Bible Students Association) as are a few local congregations (under CCTV provisions) but it seems to me that local congregations, which hold searchable (and sometimes sensitive) personal data should also be registered. Am I correct in this view?
Thank you for your attentionI'll post any reply.
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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.
by ThomasCovenant inthe sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.
was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.
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Joe Grundy
Thanks, Mephis.
I think that this is going to be a can of worms, but I'm retired, most days its raining so it could be a useful pursuit.
(I find it noteworthy that the Bible Students broke away from JWs, or vice versa, and yet WT UK still uses IBSA as its legal entity - but that's another discussion).
I never was a JW but as far as I understand it, every KH holds personal data (whether on paper or digital doesn't matter if it's searchable) about its members. Includes names, addresses, phone numbers, time records, JC results, TMS markings, and so on. As far as I can see, they should be registered under DPA.
I need to check this out.
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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.
by ThomasCovenant inthe sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.
was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.
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Joe Grundy
OK - anyone here from Newport North or Castle Bromwich who's turned in a time report? No need for any personal info.
If so, I'll raise a query with ICO on the basis that I understand that they're keeping, processing and transferring personal data caught by the DPA but outside the terms of their registration.
Then we'll move on to congos which haven't registered at all ...
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BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.
by ThomasCovenant inthe sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.
was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.
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Joe Grundy
They only keep/process CCTV stuff, too, and only share it within the EEA!